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Hitler Youth Corp – Really? Uh-huh…

Posted on 24 March 2009 by scanjack

File this under “While we distracted the public with Bankster Bailouts.”

The United States House of Representatives passed HR-1388 – “Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act” or GIVE Act (which if you read the bill it is really “Give Mandatory Service Act”) – by a vote of 321 to 105.  Really? Yes, really. It’s on the Senate calendar now.

But wait, there’s more! In case you don’t off hand recall this part of the U.S. Constitution:

The First Amendment reads as follows: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

On March 18, Rep. George Miller, a Democrat from California, tacked an amendment on to HR-1388 which “prohibit organizations from attempting to influence legislation; organize or engage in protests, petitions, boycotts, or strikes; and assist, promote, or deter union organizing,” which is reported at Govtrack.us.

Main stream media has reported Obama policy similar to Hitler’s very own policies. Awesome, really just fantastic.

24 Comments For This Post

  1. GlazednConfused Says:

    Your links are coming up blank and I’m a little hazy on your point. Are you pro- or anti-Hitler?

  2. scanjack Says:

    I changed the “HR-1388” link, but all the other links come up for me so I’m not sure what the deal is with those 🙁

    I am not for conscription in any way, shape or form. The U.S. has pretty much been taken over by Finance Oligarchs with Obama being the current puppet.

  3. Thraxxus Says:

    I erad his post as mostly sarcasm – aka anti Facism.

  4. Thraxxus Says:

    http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-h2857/show more to read here.

  5. Thraxxus Says:

    Funny that fox-news would post this: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/18/house-readies-passage-volunteerism-critics-pricey-forced-service/

  6. Five0ClockCharlie Says:

    I find this really disturbing and oops there goes another freedom down the drain.

    Sad Truly Sad

  7. GlazednConfused Says:

    I think we are jumping to conclusions. There are arguments on both sides about the bill. After reading it in detail, I do not see a lot that points to mandatory civilian army, deployed at will to do Obama’s bidding. I am must be missing a provision.

  8. scanjack Says:

    Here is a pretty good post on just those “mandatory” concerns – http://dprogram.net/2009/03/23/hr-1388-%e2%80%9cgive%e2%80%9d-act-forces-mandatory-service-requirement-on-all-young-americans/

  9. scanjack Says:

    Just a quick update noting that the Senate passed the bill as well, 74 to 14 – Sigh 🙁

    “A passage contained in section 6104 of the original House version entitled “Duties,” in subsection B6, states that a commission will be set up to investigate, “Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed.” This language has been dropped from the version passed by the Senate.

    However, Section 120 of the bill discusses the “Youth Engagement Zone Program” and states that “service learning” will be “a mandatory part of the curriculum in all of the secondary schools served by the local educational agency.” This part remains in the version passed by the Senate.

    Roles which will be staffed by members of the programs, labeled “Required National Service Corps,” include “criminal justice,” “environmental stewardship,” and “public safety”.”

  10. GlazednConfused Says:

    I don’t see a problem with including community service as part of a curriculum requirement. Sounds like glorified field trips to me, and my guess is if a parent doesn’t want their kid to be included then there will be workarounds. Also, I like the wording “investigate…a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service…”

  11. Thraxxus Says:

    I have a problem with it. By that rationale by student must do community service to graduate? Not sure how MUST DO is voluntary anything.

  12. guybehindtheguy Says:

    Community service? How does mandatory = volunteer? Does this bill stand up to reason using logic?

  13. GlazednConfused Says:

    Right now they MUST learn things that do not interest them. They MUST take PE or some variation. Hell, at some schools they MUST wear only certain clothes. I don’t understand what’s the difference between this MUST and any other of the many MUSTS they deal with in school. So you guys have a problem with community service as it is worded in the legislation? Just like any legislation, it is overkill. If you have a problem with community service, then just say it. If the issue is you don’t want your kids “forced” to help people, and you’d rather teach them your own Ayn Rand-esque value system then just say it. If you think it is just some fancy worded way of the government pushing their beliefs of (“helping others”) on your kids, then say it. Those are all acceptable protests to this bill. It could be translated as restricting your civil rights, and my guess is the Supreme Court would agree.

    On the other hand, if you think this is big step towards your kids becoming some kind of “Tween Militia”, then that is your extrapolation.

  14. Thraxxus Says:

    Look we have moved on to personal attacks! Always a great way to make a point. Glad you chose the high ground there.

    The wording, aka semantics, is a problem.

    A Volunteer is one who Volunteers – not one who is forced to do something.

    My children’s, and my own, values have nothing to do with it. Attacking them is both offensive and classless.

  15. scanjack Says:

    Interesting. I’d like to know what you think about this documentary:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw&feature=channel_page

  16. GlazednConfused Says:

    Oh please, you sure like to read between the lines…and outside the lines…and make up your own lines. I made no such personal attack whatsoever. All I’m saying, through exaggeration, is you were not being clear on why you find this legislation so scary. Now you are finally saying the wording is insidious, and possibly the intention. The former I mostly agree with, the latter I do not.

  17. GlazednConfused Says:

    As for the video, two hours is a lot to commit to a conspiracy movie. Although it is nice to see KRS-One get some screen time. I’ll just check out Alex’s website.

  18. GlazednConfused Says:

    Ok so Alex Jones’ site says that “Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed.” wording has been dropped from the version passed by the Senate. One step back for “national enslavement”, but there is plenty of time. Don’t give up hope yet.

  19. Thraxxus Says:

    “If the issue is you don’t want your kids “forced” to help people, and you’d rather teach them your own Ayn Rand-esque value system then just say it.” Perhaps I read in between the wrong lines.

  20. GlazednConfused Says:

    It was a joke. You know, an exaggeration. Satire. If that is not the way you took it, then that is not all on me.

  21. scanjack Says:

    You should stick to what you actually know instead of labeling a documentary (which if you watch it, mostly takes major media coverage of comments by U.S. policy makers, and their subsequent contradicting actions) you have not even watched “a conspiracy movie”. Cheers.

  22. Thraxxus Says:

    I find your retort on the lines of blame the victim. “I called your wife a whore, if you don’t get the joke that is your problem!”

  23. GlazednConfused Says:

    Your argument is does not apply to this situation – you are over-simplifying, imho.

    As for the video, Alex Jones himself labels his site a “Conspiracy-tinted site containing strong opposition to socialism, communism, and the New World Order..” so you tell me.

  24. scanjack Says:

    Ah here come the City Year Red Jackets – “… shed my individual skin … ” and rights if the legislation continues on it’s path to make service mandatory, and not as it should be on a volunteer basis.

    http://www.cityyear.org/video_ektid10559.aspx

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